Shroom huntin'

[Firon]

"I believe a rabid insanity would be more along the lines of a killing rampage without cause, yet we have clearly established there is a distinct cause- one of self preservation. Since you clearly don't spent any time out in the wilderness and thus don't realize this, the vast majority of animals don't stop to consider such silly things as whether or not the animal they are hunting might have an intelligence similar to theirs. If they need food for sustenance and happen to eat meat, they will attack and kill if possible."

"You claim that I believe myself superior. Perhaps I am, to you, at any rate. I at least can understand that animals do what they can to survive and try to juxtapose your own petty morals onto your actions is unnatural and foolish. Refusing to do what betters yourself is an idea of pure ignorance, not naturally found in the animal kingdom."

[Kojo]

"Some of what you say is true, but a bear, as powerful as it is doesn't hunt the wolf. Carnivores rarely hunt each other. And obviously herbivores don't hunt at all. And No animal actively hunts it's own species. Even wolves, the wolf will attack and kill others that enter its territory, but the wold will not see out and hunt another wolf because its hungry. Not unless there is no other choice. And I live out here I've lived in a jungle with little more that leaves over my head ever since I was born i know the ways of the jungle."

And then Firon fell into Kojo's trap. "What makes you superior to me? Since clearly intelligence, and physical abilities don't make me superior to the animals, though it isn't a superiority i believe true. Using that same logic, how do you justify your superiority?" Kojo asked. If firon cared to notice the gash in Kojo's leg was gone. This entire time they where talking he had been using his own nature magic to heal the wound. It still ached but he could use it now. "And as for my morality it is human nature, in fact it is the nature of any animal that socializes with others of its kind or other kinds, to create their own set of morals. As for that last comment what do you mean by a refusal to better myself?"

[Firon]

"You are objectively wrong. Do not make an absolute statement, for it can be dispelled with a single contrary example. Humans, as you have unwittingly admitted, will hunt their own species. As do elves, drow, dwarves and many other races. Once again, in your claim of 'no animal', you seem to have decided your own race has transcended the title of 'animal'. Furthermore, there is the spider, some of which are known to kill and eat their own mates, which serves to thwart your claim further."

"Like I said, perhaps I am superior only in that I do not try and claim moral high ground, which is not something often found in the animal kingdom. True, some animals follow pack mentality, while others have certain behaviors they ascribe to. Yet, your lack of understanding that morals are not absolute and are instead entirely subjective puts you at a disadvantage."

[Kojo]

"You claim you are better than me because you don't claim a moral high. In that claim did you not just claim a moral high ground?" Kojo asked. "The claim itself is the sin your accusing me of. As for the spider, and even the mantis their goal is no different from that of every other animal in that. To ensure a better life for their offspring. The mantis and the spider will produce a multitude of their own kind because of the sacrifice of their mate."

"and like the spider There are tribes of humans that sacrifice their own to their gods to plead for their favor. They sacrifice their own in the hopes of becoming stronger. Some do so believing they will gain power. Humans as a whole are no different from nature. Why do you keep claiming that I deny such an unavoidable truth."

[Firon]

"Once again you show your ignorance. For I claimed superiority due to the lack of lusting after moral high ground. While you, on the other hand, seem to try to make moral high ground and superiority synonymous, so that if you claim one, you are also claiming the other. I believe a steady point of what I have been saying was that they are not equal. Do try to keep up."

"Why do I claim you deny such unavoidable truth? Let me quote: 'No animal actively hunts it's own species'. I would make the claim that this is a statement of denial. Now, back to the spider, it is interesting that you justify cannibalism with the idea of bettering their offspring. For, if you will make the argue that it is justified to kill your own kind provided it is to make a better life for your spawn, then you have just justified many major wars and genocides, assuming they are done for the betterment of the attacking kingdom."

[Kojo]

It was obvious that this argument was pointless. Every verbal attack was turned against him and ever explanation was shot down like a bird being hit by an arrow in flight. Not only that this argument was pointless, and they where getting no where. So this time he ignored his retort.

"So, where exactly is this disagreement going? I believe what i believe and you're not going to change it. What are you trying to prove that you're better at debating than I am? It really makes no difference." he said trying to get out of this endless cycle.

[Firon]

"Where is this disagreement going? Isn't it obvious? You argued against and questioned my moral values, so I responded to each and every one of your disagreements and tore them apart. Your feeble moral have been clearly demonstrated to be a product of self-delusion and ignorance, while mine seem to have been able to stand up quite well."

This was a game of dominance. Though it did not involve any blows being traded in the traditional sense, his main goal had simply been to verbally assault the man, form the moment the man first decided to lash out against Firon with words. All that mattered in the end was that the man was beaten, which he seemed perfectly willing to admit to now.

Firon had won, his dominance had been asserted.

[Kojo]

"According to you." he said in responce. "To me you have proven nothing, only that your tongue seems to be as precise as your knife throwing. You haven't changed my opinion, you've simply shot down what I've said. So, Firon, was it, what now. now tat you have successfully made your self feel better than me what do you plan to do?" Kojo asked no clearly annoyed.